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New Podcast Episode: Flying Boats and Underwater Drones
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New Podcast Episode: Flying Boats and Underwater Drones

Building for the next great frontier.

Dear Rational Optimist,

I recently spoke with two young founders driving the ocean’s future: Will O'Brien from Ulysses Ecosystem Engineering and David Zagaynov from Poseidon Aerospace. They’re building high-tech flying boats and underwater drones while stewarding the ocean.

Click the image above to watch Stephen’s interview with Will and David.

In our interview you’ll hear about:

  • Why Poseidon’s flying boats could revolutionize cargo transport

  • The billions in gold and emeralds sitting in one wreck off Colombia's coast

  • How underwater drones are solving critical problems, from seagrass restoration to defense

  • How Starlink and advances in EV batteries are enabling big leaps in autonomous ocean vehicles

  • The biggest gaps in the “ocean stack” … and who’s going to make all the money

Click the image above to watch my interview with Will and David now.

—Stephen McBride

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